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		<title>by: Adam</title>
		<link>http://rift.org/1128/2006/08/the-joy-of-hating-on-thomas-kinkade/#comment-4571</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 14:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;p&gt;Hahahahahahahahahaha.  Thank you, Anonymous.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>by: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://rift.org/1128/2006/08/the-joy-of-hating-on-thomas-kinkade/#comment-4567</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 09:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;p&gt;You must be one bitter, completely worthless person to put so much effort into criticizing someone's work&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must be one bitter, completely worthless person to put so much effort into criticizing someone&#8217;s work</p>
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		<title>by: chap</title>
		<link>http://rift.org/1128/2006/08/the-joy-of-hating-on-thomas-kinkade/#comment-1770</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 10:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;p&gt;There are a couple of interesting tid-bits at the end of the Kinkade &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_kinkade#Personal_conduct" rel="nofollow"&gt;Wikipedia article&lt;/a&gt; that I'm surprised no one has pointed out yet:&lt;/p&gt;

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Kinkade also is alleged by former colleagues, employees, and even collectors of his work to have a long history of cursing and heckling other artists and performers, and is alleged to have openly groped a woman's breasts at a South Bend, Indiana sales event. He also is rumored to have a proclivity for "ritual territory marking" through urination.[13] Kinkade responded to the Times' allegations with an apology[14], attributing his misconduct to a period of stress in his life.
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&lt;p&gt;And almost equally as bizarre: &lt;/p&gt;

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In 2006 John Dandois, Media Arts Group executive, recounted a story that on one occasion ("about six years ago") Kinkade became drunk at a " Siegfried and Roy" magic show in Las Vegas and began shouting "Codpiece! Codpiece!" at the performers. Eventually he was calmed by his mother[15].
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&lt;p&gt;I do not like Thomas Kinkade or his product. I think that he mass-markets bland, uninspired pap as art (with a super-saccharine coating of supposed religious inspiration to boot). I will not argue, though, that he does not have the right to do it - if it works for him that's fine, I still don't like it. I do have to admit finding great amusement in how un-christian this supposed christian "painter of light" behaves in business. I think it peels back that saccharine layer to reveal his true nature.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a couple of interesting tid-bits at the end of the Kinkade <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_kinkade#Personal_conduct" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia article</a> that I&#8217;m surprised no one has pointed out yet:</p>
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Kinkade also is alleged by former colleagues, employees, and even collectors of his work to have a long history of cursing and heckling other artists and performers, and is alleged to have openly groped a woman&#8217;s breasts at a South Bend, Indiana sales event. He also is rumored to have a proclivity for &#8220;ritual territory marking&#8221; through urination.[13] Kinkade responded to the Times&#8217; allegations with an apology[14], attributing his misconduct to a period of stress in his life.
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<p>And almost equally as bizarre: </p>
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In 2006 John Dandois, Media Arts Group executive, recounted a story that on one occasion (&#8221;about six years ago&#8221;) Kinkade became drunk at a &#8221; Siegfried and Roy&#8221; magic show in Las Vegas and began shouting &#8220;Codpiece! Codpiece!&#8221; at the performers. Eventually he was calmed by his mother[15].
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<p>I do not like Thomas Kinkade or his product. I think that he mass-markets bland, uninspired pap as art (with a super-saccharine coating of supposed religious inspiration to boot). I will not argue, though, that he does not have the right to do it - if it works for him that&#8217;s fine, I still don&#8217;t like it. I do have to admit finding great amusement in how un-christian this supposed christian &#8220;painter of light&#8221; behaves in business. I think it peels back that saccharine layer to reveal his true nature.</p>
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		<title>by: Adam</title>
		<link>http://rift.org/1128/2006/08/the-joy-of-hating-on-thomas-kinkade/#comment-1767</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 01:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;p&gt;Vince (from above) tipped me to this great quote, apparently from Joan Didion's book, &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where_I_Was_From" rel="nofollow"&gt;"Where I Was From"&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;"A Kinkade painting was typically rendered in slightly surreal pastels. It typically featured a cottage or a house of such insistent coziness as to seem actually sinister, suggestive of a trap designed to attract Hansel and Gretel. Every window was lit, to lurid effect, as if the interior of the structure might be on fire."&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Source: &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Kinkade" rel="nofollow"&gt;Wikipedia: Thomas Kinkade&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vince (from above) tipped me to this great quote, apparently from Joan Didion&#8217;s book, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where_I_Was_From" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Where I Was From&#8221;</a>:</p>
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<p>&#8220;A Kinkade painting was typically rendered in slightly surreal pastels. It typically featured a cottage or a house of such insistent coziness as to seem actually sinister, suggestive of a trap designed to attract Hansel and Gretel. Every window was lit, to lurid effect, as if the interior of the structure might be on fire.&#8221;</p>
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<p><em>Source: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Kinkade" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia: Thomas Kinkade</a></em></p>
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		<title>by: Adam</title>
		<link>http://rift.org/1128/2006/08/the-joy-of-hating-on-thomas-kinkade/#comment-1765</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 00:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;p&gt;Anonymous, I find it amusingly appropriate that you have taken such offense to me expressing &lt;em&gt;my opinion&lt;/em&gt; about Kinkade, and that you are unable to understand my comparison between Spears and Kinkade on an abstract level.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As you seem bent on attacking what I've created here (and my subsequent, unrelated &lt;a href="http://rift.org/1128/2006/08/creature-gets-clean/" rel="nofollow"&gt;post&lt;/a&gt;), according to your logic I should draw the conclusion that you're jealous of my abilities, no?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous, I find it amusingly appropriate that you have taken such offense to me expressing <em>my opinion</em> about Kinkade, and that you are unable to understand my comparison between Spears and Kinkade on an abstract level.</p>
<p>As you seem bent on attacking what I&#8217;ve created here (and my subsequent, unrelated <a href="http://rift.org/1128/2006/08/creature-gets-clean/" rel="nofollow">post</a>), according to your logic I should draw the conclusion that you&#8217;re jealous of my abilities, no?</p>
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		<title>by: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://rift.org/1128/2006/08/the-joy-of-hating-on-thomas-kinkade/#comment-1763</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 23:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;p&gt;Well I must say that from your prespective  you've spent countless hours in the art studio slaving over your latest creation. As far as his marketing strategy I don't blame him for "designing to sell" because if someone is trying to sale something and it looks like garbage no one will buy it.  Which results in lots of wasted time and energy. I think your jealous that he does what he does, and as far as challenging a veiwer of art, Kinkade doesnt need to do that. Art is not about challenging someone it's about evoking emotion and getting a reaction, and from the looks of your blog I think Kinkade won, and he got a reaction out of you. Even if it was a negetive one.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And to say Brittney Spears is a peer of KinKade's  is ridicuals!!!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I must say that from your prespective  you&#8217;ve spent countless hours in the art studio slaving over your latest creation. As far as his marketing strategy I don&#8217;t blame him for &#8220;designing to sell&#8221; because if someone is trying to sale something and it looks like garbage no one will buy it.  Which results in lots of wasted time and energy. I think your jealous that he does what he does, and as far as challenging a veiwer of art, Kinkade doesnt need to do that. Art is not about challenging someone it&#8217;s about evoking emotion and getting a reaction, and from the looks of your blog I think Kinkade won, and he got a reaction out of you. Even if it was a negetive one.</p>
<p>And to say Brittney Spears is a peer of KinKade&#8217;s  is ridicuals!!!</p>
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		<title>by: Adam</title>
		<link>http://rift.org/1128/2006/08/the-joy-of-hating-on-thomas-kinkade/#comment-1761</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 22:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;p&gt;Susan -- I agree.  The price must be right for the market.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It is interesting that "Kim Christensen, Times Staff Writer" seems to be responsible for the vast majority of articles that tell of Kinkade's troubles (even those prior to this), as far as I've been able to find.  And all other articles seem to be piggybacking on the same content through AP or UPI news wires.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan &#8212; I agree.  The price must be right for the market.</p>
<p>It is interesting that &#8220;Kim Christensen, Times Staff Writer&#8221; seems to be responsible for the vast majority of articles that tell of Kinkade&#8217;s troubles (even those prior to this), as far as I&#8217;ve been able to find.  And all other articles seem to be piggybacking on the same content through AP or UPI news wires.</p>
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		<title>by: Susan</title>
		<link>http://rift.org/1128/2006/08/the-joy-of-hating-on-thomas-kinkade/#comment-1760</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 22:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;p&gt;"What I take issue with is his company marketing his product as if it were actually collectable original art.  If I wanted to celebrate God’s creation with my paintings, Anonymous, I wouldn’t charge hundreds of dollars for what is essentially a print."  - from Adam above.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Market demand dictates what amount the company prices the paintings to sell.  Marketing strategy determines what sells the best, and if marketing these paintings as collectable original arts works, then that is their selling strategy.  Seems to me that you do not prefer the art and the company's methods as do the buyers who purchase it.  That's fine, for I do not think every singer who has won a Grammy deserves it, and therefore, I do not purchase their albums.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As far as the article, I was searching to see if other papers had an article on the subject, but came up empty.  I do not trust the slant of the LA Times and would like to read further.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What I take issue with is his company marketing his product as if it were actually collectable original art.  If I wanted to celebrate God’s creation with my paintings, Anonymous, I wouldn’t charge hundreds of dollars for what is essentially a print.&#8221;  - from Adam above.</p>
<p>Market demand dictates what amount the company prices the paintings to sell.  Marketing strategy determines what sells the best, and if marketing these paintings as collectable original arts works, then that is their selling strategy.  Seems to me that you do not prefer the art and the company&#8217;s methods as do the buyers who purchase it.  That&#8217;s fine, for I do not think every singer who has won a Grammy deserves it, and therefore, I do not purchase their albums.</p>
<p>As far as the article, I was searching to see if other papers had an article on the subject, but came up empty.  I do not trust the slant of the LA Times and would like to read further.</p>
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		<title>by: Adam</title>
		<link>http://rift.org/1128/2006/08/the-joy-of-hating-on-thomas-kinkade/#comment-1759</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;p&gt;Mia -- That mug may have been valuable someday!  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Vince -- You may have hit the nail on the head... ;)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Anonymous -- I'm glad I held back a little!  I'm not sure which among us you were addressing, but for the record I thought his work was kitsch before I had any idea what he did with his Sundays.  What I take issue with is his company marketing his product as if it were actually collectable original art.  If I wanted to celebrate God's creation with my paintings, Anonymous, I wouldn't charge hundreds of dollars for what is essentially a print.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As for our alleged jealousy, who wouldn't like to be able to paint like Kinkade?  As I stated in my post, he's very talented, but he's not exactly pushing the envelope!  I took the time to write this post not because I'm jealous, but because it disappoints me that so many people seem to have no interest in challenging themselves with art.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We can speculate that he is a true artist and he secretly loathes constructing these saccharine-soaked scenes, but does it to pay for his kids' schooling.  As pure speculation, however, it's meaningless.  It's my opinion that his current work is the equivalent of a sanitized Britney Spears album: it's designed to &lt;em&gt;sell&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks for reading.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mia &#8212; That mug may have been valuable someday!  </p>
<p>Vince &#8212; You may have hit the nail on the head&#8230; ;)</p>
<p>Anonymous &#8212; I&#8217;m glad I held back a little!  I&#8217;m not sure which among us you were addressing, but for the record I thought his work was kitsch before I had any idea what he did with his Sundays.  What I take issue with is his company marketing his product as if it were actually collectable original art.  If I wanted to celebrate God&#8217;s creation with my paintings, Anonymous, I wouldn&#8217;t charge hundreds of dollars for what is essentially a print.</p>
<p>As for our alleged jealousy, who wouldn&#8217;t like to be able to paint like Kinkade?  As I stated in my post, he&#8217;s very talented, but he&#8217;s not exactly pushing the envelope!  I took the time to write this post not because I&#8217;m jealous, but because it disappoints me that so many people seem to have no interest in challenging themselves with art.  </p>
<p>We can speculate that he is a true artist and he secretly loathes constructing these saccharine-soaked scenes, but does it to pay for his kids&#8217; schooling.  As pure speculation, however, it&#8217;s meaningless.  It&#8217;s my opinion that his current work is the equivalent of a sanitized Britney Spears album: it&#8217;s designed to <em>sell</em>.</p>
<p>Thanks for reading.</p>
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		<title>by: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://rift.org/1128/2006/08/the-joy-of-hating-on-thomas-kinkade/#comment-1758</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 19:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;p&gt;I dont read this blog too much, but I have to say that I am somewhat angered by what I have read. It is clear to me that some people don't understand, or appreciate good art when one sees it. Regardless if it is mass produced or not. Who cares? If Thomas Kinkade wants to give credit to his creator for giving him the talent and inspiration to paint all of his art so be it. Is it repedative? Of course, but so was Van Gough, Michanglo etc.... Kinkade practices Impressionism, and he's damn good at catching the lighting references of his ideas and conceptions. But for someone who doesn't know the man personally, and to publicly bash him for his "religious beliefs" is a Low place to go. Let Kinkade live with his religious beliefs because if he is or isn't sincere he'll have to answer To his creator in the end.  And if he did swindel folks out of money -- then he needs to serve his time , and go back to doing what he does best -- Paint awesome scenes regardless of how much it cost, and give it to the public. I think every single one of you are jealous of his talent because he's one of the only few who can do what he does. So shame on you!!!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont read this blog too much, but I have to say that I am somewhat angered by what I have read. It is clear to me that some people don&#8217;t understand, or appreciate good art when one sees it. Regardless if it is mass produced or not. Who cares? If Thomas Kinkade wants to give credit to his creator for giving him the talent and inspiration to paint all of his art so be it. Is it repedative? Of course, but so was Van Gough, Michanglo etc&#8230;. Kinkade practices Impressionism, and he&#8217;s damn good at catching the lighting references of his ideas and conceptions. But for someone who doesn&#8217;t know the man personally, and to publicly bash him for his &#8220;religious beliefs&#8221; is a Low place to go. Let Kinkade live with his religious beliefs because if he is or isn&#8217;t sincere he&#8217;ll have to answer To his creator in the end.  And if he did swindel folks out of money &#8212; then he needs to serve his time , and go back to doing what he does best &#8212; Paint awesome scenes regardless of how much it cost, and give it to the public. I think every single one of you are jealous of his talent because he&#8217;s one of the only few who can do what he does. So shame on you!!!</p>
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